More money than God

That amount of money is a mere pittance, compared to what they have, all they'll do is agrivate a group of people that have very few luxuries. A couple of guys going to places like India or China to instuct them on how to live will only bear bad Karma. IMHO!
 
So instead of fighting hunger or some other worthy cause, they blow 375 million on trying to stop smoking?

What a waste.
 
So instead of fighting hunger or some other worthy cause, they blow 375 million on trying to stop smoking?

What a waste.

Seriously...

$375,000,000.00... wow...

could have bought 3,750,000,000 packs of ramen noodles. haha

Thats nearly a pack of Ramen for every person in the world.
 
So instead of fighting hunger or some other worthy cause, they blow 375 million on trying to stop smoking?

What a waste.

Seriously...

$375,000,000.00... wow...

could have bought 3,750,000,000 packs of ramen noodles. haha

Thats nearly a pack of Ramen for every person in the world.


So very true, and if you shop at Giant Eagle thats a lot of Fuel Perks :thumbs:

I have more money than God. He is poor.

But rich in spirit ;)
 
" 'Tobacco-caused diseases have emerged as one of the greatest health challenges facing developing countries,' Gates said in a statement. "

I'll head to a poor African country and offer them anti-smoking propaganda and food. I wonder which they would prefer?
 
Time to refresh this since is so very much applies here:

Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated: but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis
 
Time to refresh this since is so very much applies here:

Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated: but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis


No Political Discussions! :sign:
 
It has no specific origin. Politicians, social workers, cops, neighbors, coworkers (specially the DICKS in HR), you name it. They spring from everywhere.
 
" 'Tobacco-caused diseases have emerged as one of the greatest health challenges facing developing countries,' Gates said in a statement. "

I'll head to a poor African country and offer them anti-smoking propaganda and food. I wonder which they would prefer?

I thought AIDS was still the largest problem facing most of the developing countries in the world? That's what they told me last week when they asked for my donation. Maybe a lot has been accomplished since then...


I'm convinced that most of these people wouldn't know a good time if it crawled into their lap and wiggled.
 
Time to refresh this since is so very much applies here:

Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated: but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis

Bruce, that is absolutely outstanding. Thanks for re-posting this.

Of all the troubles that face Africa, surely this rates down there towards the bottom next to "Too many kids playing PS2 instead of going outside to play."
 
While I agree the money could be better spent on silly little things like food, clean water, and better health care in developing countries, the simple fact is that smoking deaths are a global health epidemic, especially in developing countries. This includes countries like India and China, not just Africa, as both countries are still considered to be in the "developing" category. Some links from the WHO:

Linky

Linky

BBC article from 1999: Linky

Press release from Harvard's School of Public Health (2003): Linky

Recent article about a new UN Report: Linky

Whether or not you agree with anti-smoking nuts, the truth is pretty obvious. Smoking is a personal choice that comes with significant health risks and we all know that in this country. I for one don't think it is a bad idea to educate people who may have no idea of the possible health risks in developing countries. Give them the facts and let them decide...
 
I'm with Bruce on this one.

Sure, smoking has risks if you over-indulge, but second hand smoke 'facts' are Junk Science, but that point is becoming moot as well. 'Facts' are being fabricated from thin air now, like if you smoke in your car with a child, that child could have a heart attack within thirty seconds of exposure (from Australia, that one... I am ashamed to admit).

When truth becomes dispensable in lieu of monetary and political gains: you know you are in trouble, but when it is sung to the tune of 'helping us live better lives' it is plain scary.
 
While I agree the money could be better spent on silly little things like food, clean water, and better health care in developing countries, the simple fact is that smoking deaths are a global health epidemic, especially in developing countries. This includes countries like India and China, not just Africa, as both countries are still considered to be in the "developing" category. Some links from the WHO:

Linky

Linky

BBC article from 1999: Linky

Press release from Harvard's School of Public Health (2003): Linky

Recent article about a new UN Report: Linky

Whether or not you agree with anti-smoking nuts, the truth is pretty obvious. Smoking is a personal choice that comes with significant health risks and we all know that in this country. I for one don't think it is a bad idea to educate people who may have no idea of the possible health risks in developing countries. Give them the facts and let them decide...

I'm all for giving people the facts if they are indeed actual facts. Call me cynical, but I really don't get the feeling that these foundations will be providing 100% facts.

It's also not just about education. They're focusing efforts on taxation, distribution, cessation, and other control issues. It sounds to me more like a crusade to give people their facts, put them under their control, and then help them to make only one decision.

Modern day "activists" are among the most dangerous people on this planet. They are, by definition, only interested in one side of an issue, theirs.
 
While I agree the money could be better spent on silly little things like food, clean water, and better health care in developing countries, the simple fact is that smoking deaths are a global health epidemic, especially in developing countries. This includes countries like India and China, not just Africa, as both countries are still considered to be in the "developing" category. Some links from the WHO:

Linky

Linky

BBC article from 1999: Linky

Press release from Harvard's School of Public Health (2003): Linky

Recent article about a new UN Report: Linky

Whether or not you agree with anti-smoking nuts, the truth is pretty obvious. Smoking is a personal choice that comes with significant health risks and we all know that in this country. I for one don't think it is a bad idea to educate people who may have no idea of the possible health risks in developing countries. Give them the facts and let them decide...

I'm all for giving people the facts if they are indeed actual facts. Call me cynical, but I really don't get the feeling that these foundations will be providing 100% facts.

It's also not just about education. They're focusing efforts on taxation, distribution, cessation, and other control issues. It sounds to me more like a crusade to give people their facts, put them under their control, and then help them to make only one decision.

Modern day "activists" are among the most dangerous people on this planet. They are, by definition, only interested in one side of an issue, theirs.

I totally agree with you that the money should only be spent on education and not trying to influence any government action to control the tobacco industry. If that is the case, then the money truly is a waste. Hopefully the money can be used like it is on AIDS; focusing on preventing the disease through education.
 
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