Cigar Girl® for 09/12/23 - NSFW

[lherzolite]

Regardless of the gender of the subject, do you really think the pics that Ray posts, and what you posted are remotely similar? Equating them is ridiculous.

 

[xyz123]

Equating them is ridiculous.

Only because I picked the most ridiculous looking ones. There were all kinds of "artful" dudes with their wangs hanging out while smoking cigars.. in fact, apparently there's a whole fetish around it.

And you're missing the point. When people (plural, actually found out it wasn't just Corey either) start leaving a forum over it, that's the problem. All I did was point out the hypocrisy of the notion that naked women smoking cigars is ok, but naked men smoking cigars is not.

Again, I personally am not offended by it. But clearly the conflation of the different genders smoking while posing naked is a problem. As in, as soon as the nude man was posted, it illicited a negative response.

For me personally, cigars and naked women are 2 of my favorite things. And combining them.. fuhgettabouit.. I love it.

But my opinion isn't the only one that counts.

 

[xyz123]

Regardless of the gender of the subject, do you really think the pics that Ray posts, and what you posted are remotely similar?

Also, the majority of what Ray posts (and I'm not wanting to single him out.. it was just the most recent example is all. I really dig a lot of what he posts.. just in general).. but the majority is art-y and tasteful.. example:



That is just an overall beautiful image and posted by Ray. I'm talking more along the lines of pics such as these (also from Ray):



Now clearly, you can't equate the two of those as similar. The latter is the kind of stuff I'm referring to.

 

[CigarStone]

First time for everything. And, as mentioned, I personally am not offended by them. But the member we lost is.. he joined a cigar forum.

Speaking of members... based on your logic.. maybe there's "members" here that a naked woman does nothing for them.. so NSFW (gotta cover my ass):

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Finding this was easy, just Googled "massive erection". If it was that easy for me to find this content, I have no doubt people looking for naked chicks will be able to do the same.

Oh wait.. they need cigars...

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Dan, you have chosen numerous opportunities to be an ass on this forum. You're challenging of @AVB Ray, and your follow-up post should have you banned!

ETA: You owe Ray, and the Forum, an apology for your asinine behavior.

 

[xyz123]

ETA: You owe the Forum, an apology for your asinine behavior.

You first Jeff. You're the biggest culprit here.

My points were valid and I've always been respectful of this forum.

 

[AVB]

Your logic is laughable. First the content of my post is clearly known in the title - yours is not.
Second, haveing that foreknowledge gives you the opportunity to decide if that is something you wish to see. Your posts here do not.
Third, when confronted with the apparent norms of a social gathering most people, you being excepted, do not contribute to what they are objecting to. It makes you look and us think you are....stupid.
Fourth, this is not a democracy. If you don't like the way it is being run then comlaining to other members does nothing. You have to convince the guy in charge and IMO with the people skill you have shown thus far that isn't going to happen..

So based on your preferred posting you can suck it up or move on I don't care either way.

 

[xyz123]

Your logic is laughable. First the content of my post is clearly known in the title - yours is not.
Second, haveing that foreknowledge gives you the opportunity to decide if that is something you wish to see. Your posts here do not.
Third, when confronted with the apparent norms of a social gathering most people, you being excepted, do not contribute to what they are objecting to. It makes you look and us think you are....stupid.
Fourth, this is not a democracy. If you don't like the way it is being run then comlaining to other members does nothing. You have to convince the guy in charge and IMO with the people skill you have shown thus far that isn't going to happen..

So based on your preferred posting you can suck it up or move on I don't care either way.

Keep missing the point. I'M not offended by the content itself, which seems to be the hangup here. I'm pointing out there's better places for it and it has caused members to leave here for good.

And it just doesn't need to.

 

[AVB]

Keep missing the point. I'M not offended by the content itself, which seems to be the hangup here. I'm pointing out there's better places for it and it has caused members to leave here for good.

And it just doesn't need to.

At this point in time the society that is Cigar Pass either disagrees or thinks that having more like minded members is better than conforming to a minority of un=like minded members. Or so it appears. I can't speak for everybody but observation certinly leans that way.

 

[xyz123]

At this point in time the society that is Cigar Pass either disagrees or thinks that having more like minded members is better than conforming to a minority of un=like minded members. Or so it appears. I can't speak for everybody but observation certinly leans that way.

I agree.

Unfortunately, that's not a good thing. Growth is good.

Rod and I are the same age, Gen X'ers. This place needs to accommodate more people.. if it intends on having a future. Or, minimally, cover server costs.

 

[AVB]

I agree.

Unfortunately, that's not a good thing. Growth is good.

Rod and I are the same age, Gen X'ers. This place needs to accommodate more people.. if it intends on having a future. Or, minimally, cover server costs.

As stated previously, don't look at things you don't want to see.
BTW, I can say with certainty that most of my Cigar Girl pics are not dressed and you can assume that the majority of pics in the Santa's Little Helper thread are nudes too.

 

[xyz123]

As stated previously, don't look at things you don't want to see.
BTW, I can say with certainty that most of my Cigar Girl pics are not dressed and you can assume that the majority of pics in the Santa's Little Helper thread are nudes too.

Yes, I'm aware of that. Not sure how I can make this better understood.. I DON'T have a problem with the posts. I guess, call me an advocate for those who created an account here, posted actively for many months, and then was driven away.

Corey is a young, conservative, Pro-Life Christian evangelical person from California with a new family. And he's the one in my screenshot who left the forum because of the porn. And he's not the only one. And again, I like me the titties and hot chicks.

I just know of a million other places I can find them.. as needed. I don't see a point to it needing to be here.. especially now that I know it's responsible for people leaving. As I said earlier, I enjoy just about everything you post.. always have. It's a main reason I PM'd you last month and sent sticks to Barrens Rd for your buddy.

Anyways... I need to eat something...

 

[AVB]

I agree.

Unfortunately, that's not a good thing. Growth is good.

Rod and I are the same age, Gen X'ers. This place needs to accommodate more people.. if it intends on having a future. Or, minimally, cover server costs.

You are making the mistake thinking that all places have to accommodate all people. Should they stop making mini-Coopers because at 6'7" 290lbs I don't fit in one? Or the restaurant down the road should have special table and chairs in case an 800lb customer comes in.? This is the same. You walk in look around see if you like decor and the people. Decide if you fit in or not and either stay or go somewhere else..

 

[AVB]

Yes, I'm aware of that. Not sure how I can make this better understood.. I DON'T have a problem with the posts. I guess, call me an advocate for those who created an account here, posted actively for many months, and then was driven away.

Corey is a young, conservative, Pro-Life Christian evangelical person from California with a new family. And he's the one in my screenshot who left the forum because of the porn. And he's not the only one. And again, I like me the titties and hot chicks.

I just know of a million other places I can find them.. as needed. I don't see a point to it needing to be here.. especially now that I know it's responsible for people leaving. As I said earlier, I enjoy just about everything you post.. always have. It's a main reason I PM'd you last month and sent sticks to Barrens Rd for your buddy.

Anyways... I need to eat something...

Now wait a minute, you are saying that "Corey is a young, conservative, Pro-Life Christian evangelical person from California with a new family"
whose wife thought he was looking at too much porn according to another of your posts. He certainly wasn't looking at too much porn here unless he actively searched for every Cigar Girl pic ever posted.

 

[CBoukal]

This has gone on for WAY to long. It's as simple as this.
I am fat and I like to eat. Sometimes when I go to the cigar bar people are eating. They don't serve food there, but people can bring it in. If I was enticed because of their eating I would ignore it or leave. I wouldn't ask the people in the bar to stop eating. I like Cory, he's a great guy. But if he's that triggered by a picture then he needs to make his own decisions for what is best for him and his family. He did that and we all respect it.

Sexy women isn't what this site is about, but it's something that the membership brings in every so often. Christmas and a few other random times during the year.

 

[xyz123]

You are making the mistake thinking that all places have to accommodate all people. Should they stop making mini-Coopers because at 6'7" 290lbs I don't fit in one? Or the restaurant down the road should have special table and chairs in case an 800lb customer comes in.? This is the same. You walk in look around see if you like decor and the people. Decide if you fit in or not and either stay or go somewhere else..

BMW makes Mini Coopers.. and to accommodate all, they make all kinds of vehicles, including the X-5 and other large vehicles. And an 800lb person isn't going anywhere.. but let's use that analogy in a more realistic sense.. let's say it's a 400lb person. The restaurant would move tables and chairs around to accommodate that person. If they only have boothes.. the person would probably be SOL. But the restaurant would still try with takeout or whatever. Only having boothes as a default is one thing.. this forum didn't have porn when it started.. it's not the default here. Cigars are.

Narrowing and narrowing your base is a surefire way to no longer having a base.

Now wait a minute, you are saying that "Corey is a young, conservative, Pro-Life Christian evangelical person from California with a new family"
whose wife thought he was looking at too much porn according to another of your posts. He certainly wasn't looking at too much porn here unless he actively searched for every Cigar Girl pic ever posted.

I don't know what his wife deems as "too much". From my understanding, she saw the Santa thread in his history.. it's up to them as a family unit what they do and don't agree to. This is not a porn site. It's a cigar forum that happens to have a tiny fraction of porn on it.

So little in fact, I thought it was much ado about nothing. But then again, I'm a middle-aged, hetero male who likes that kind of stuff. But then it starts you thinking, it's such a tiny part of this forum.. and you can get it on-tap all over the web, so why have it at all? It certainly isn't woman-friendly, and it's caused members to leave.

Idk.. maybe I'm missing some kind of importance in regard to the apparent need of literal cigar porn being here.

 

[xyz123]

This has gone on for WAY to long. It's as simple as this.
I am fat and I like to eat. Sometimes when I go to the cigar bar people are eating. They don't serve food there, but people can bring it in. If I was enticed because of their eating I would ignore it or leave. I wouldn't ask the people in the bar to stop eating. I like Cory, he's a great guy. But if he's that triggered by a picture then he needs to make his own decisions for what is best for him and his family. He did that and we all respect it.

Sexy women isn't what this site is about, but it's something that the membership brings in every so often. Christmas and a few other random times during the year.

I totally disagree with you Chad.

You're more... fluffy than anything.

 

[CBoukal]

I totally disagree with you Chad.

You're more... fluffy than anything.

Stay Puff is fluffy

 

[CigarStone]

BMW makes Mini Coopers.. and to accommodate all, they make all kinds of vehicles, including the X-5 and other large vehicles. And an 800lb person isn't going anywhere.. but let's use that analogy in a more realistic sense.. let's say it's a 400lb person. The restaurant would move tables and chairs around to accommodate that person. If they only have boothes.. the person would probably be SOL. But the restaurant would still try with takeout or whatever. Only having boothes as a default is one thing.. this forum didn't have porn when it started.. it's not the default here. Cigars are.

Narrowing and narrowing your base is a surefire way to no longer having a base.


I don't know what his wife deems as "too much". From my understanding, she saw the Santa thread in his history.. it's up to them as a family unit what they do and don't agree to. This is not a porn site. It's a cigar forum that happens to have a tiny fraction of porn on it.

So little in fact, I thought it was much ado about nothing. But then again, I'm a middle-aged, hetero male who likes that kind of stuff. But then it starts you thinking, it's such a tiny part of this forum.. and you can get it on-tap all over the web, so why have it at all? It certainly isn't woman-friendly, and it's caused members to leave.

Idk.. maybe I'm missing some kind of importance in regard to the apparent need of literal cigar porn being here.

For God's sake Dan give it up!

 

[AVB]

"Narrowing and narrowing your base is a surefire way to no longer having a base."

This is simple. Please post evidence that Cigar Girls and Santa's Little Helpers have driven more away then they have attracted. over the past 20 years. If you can't then you have an opinion, not a factual statement which makes me think you want things your way and not how the majority seem to want. Why don't you post a poll and get some additional data?

 

[PaulTra]

Don't like what Ray posts? Don't click his posts.

Self control goes a long way.