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Drop The Knife!

Because legally you can't justify shooting him. If he is far enough where the knife doesn't pose a deadly threat, you can't use deadly force. Police arem't trained to shoot to injure. They are trained to shoot to kill. By running him over you could justify you weren't trying to kill him, just incapacitate him.
Emo
 
I would not be surprised if he was pretty badly injured by that last move. At the very least he probably had a couple of broken ribs and a concussion. You can almost see him thinking about it and then saying "Nahhh...I'm done..."
 
I knew that parking meters were good for something besides eating money. :D


edited: checked my spelling
 
emodx said:
Because legally you can't justify shooting him. If he is far enough where the knife doesn't pose a deadly threat, you can't use deadly force. Police are trained to shoot to injure. They are trained to shoot to kill. By running him over you could justify you weren't trying to kill him, just incapacitate him.
Emo
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Law Eforcement Officials are not trained to shoot to kill or injure. They are trained to shoot/defend themselves until the threat has been de-escalated and is managable. At least in the state of NH they are.



Very nice link. I liked it. :sign:
 
My post should have read, "Police aren't trained to shoot to injure." Police are trained to hit body mass, which will either incapacitate or kill the target. A lot of different departments/forces are evaluating alternative means of incapacitation for instances exactly like this. Tazers, bean bags, netting, etc...
 
I still favor good old fashioned 45 Cal. lead emodx. ;) Screw what the departments Lawyers have to say... :whistling:
 
RLinNH said:
I still favor good old fashioned 45 Cal. lead emodx. ;) Screw what the departments Lawyers have to say... :whistling:
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The Coast Guard is transiioning from the Dated 9mm Baretta to a .40 Cal. I don't know if the manufacturer has be contracted yet though. I liked shooting the 9mm, but if you aren't used to it, it can be dificult to master. It takes a lot of trigger pressure in order to fire the weapon. So it is fairly easy to pull or throw a shot until you are used to shooting it. Just my $.02 cents.

Emo
 
We still have 9mm's also. I still think the round is crap. Alsways have, always will. Great round for target shooting. The round travels to fast though for any transfer of energy into an individual you are trying to stop. When it comes to having to fire a weapon for self defense, I'll take a 40 or a 45 any day of the week. :thumbs:
 
gatorsmg said:
I wonder why they chose to run him over instead of just shooting his dumb a$$?
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Obvious this was not filmed in Texas! :)

As for the 9mm vs 45 I'll stick with the trusty 45. That gun hasn't been around forever for nothing. :thumbs:
 
A man with a knife from twenty feet away can reach you before you can unholster your weapon. We tried this many times in training and the guy with the knife always won. The guy ramming the knife bearer with his car was justifed in doing so IMHO. The guy obviously ignored verbal commands to drop the knife, which would make a normal person believe he would use it if given a chance. Firing a pistol in an urban setting is a tricky thing at best. Police officers are responsible for every round fired. Ramming the guy was the safest way for the officers to stop this guys action. There was no chance of a round to go down range and strike an uninvolved person. A less than leathal weapon could have been used here. My department as well as many others do not have this as an option yet.

By the way...A 45 ACP is what I trust my life with every time I go to work. I carry a Glock 21 and a Glock 30 for a backup. They are loaded with Winchester XSTs, which are the Law Enforcement version of the Black Talon. :thumbs:
 
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