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"Get Out Of The Car!"
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CoventryCat86
Corresponding authority
She was driving WITH A SUSPENDED LICENSE, that is a pretty serious offense :0
She repeatedly DID NOT OBEY the officer's instructions, that right there is another offense.
Panatela, you are wrong and should apoligize to this board. If you do not, I and many others will request that you be banned.
She repeatedly DID NOT OBEY the officer's instructions, that right there is another offense.
Panatela, you are wrong and should apoligize to this board. If you do not, I and many others will request that you be banned.
cigarsarge
BOHICA
Panatela... You call me a pig. I call you a low class POS. You probably ain't got the balls to say that to my face. I laugh at your ignorance.
surferonthecrystalcoast
Member
cigarsarge said:
Ya, that's just plain ignorance. Panatela....unless your out there on the street everyday like Ken and I you need to keep your mouth shut!!!!! Cause you don't know **** about it!!!!
ggiese
Well-Known Member
Panatela said:
Yeah - you say we hide behind a badge... You hide behind a cigar board... And the scary thing is they guy owns guns... Nice...
A dozen or so posts and you're all about talking about cigars. A couple of cigar related posts, some photos of your guns, and then...
Seems you stopped by to cause trouble. By the nature of your post, I can't see how it would be any other way.... Troll...
Rod -
Thanks.
So...lemme get this straight...If your mom whoops your a$$, can you call her a pig? If your dad whoops your sorry a$$ for not obeying, do you call him a pig?
It's funny what 25 years of pure liberal crap can do to mainstream thinking. I can't believe that someone is actually taking sides with the offender, not the officer. It's like taking sides with the Devil himself IMO...
It's funny what 25 years of pure liberal crap can do to mainstream thinking. I can't believe that someone is actually taking sides with the offender, not the officer. It's like taking sides with the Devil himself IMO...
BkCloud114
I hate Moochers !!!!!
Panatela said:
Good God is this another "Information Systems Analyst" who hides behind the internet and posts judgements about other people....
Hey Panatela....... Shut The Fuçk Up.... you piece of $hit
Hey Rod..... could we get a "Ban" on this one.... surely he is here just to stir crap
SamClemmons
eloquent absurdity
Geez BK and the rest of you... would ya quit talking about banning the poor guy... Half the fun around here is burning these guys down. Everybody knows he doesn't know what he's talking about and is one of those low brow types so he's no threat to anyone. We don't need no steenking moderator (sorry Todd) to sort out this weasel.
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SamClemmons
eloquent absurdity
OMG! Moki got off the fence for a few seconds. Buwahahahahahahahahaha.moki said:
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Ban the troll. Regardless of opinion the way it was voiced is out of line and unncessary.
Although I didnt think the tazing was called for she didn't obey a single request and was way out of line. I totally understand that officers can't wait until a bad situation happens before acting and she was going in that direction so why wait?
Although I didnt think the tazing was called for she didn't obey a single request and was way out of line. I totally understand that officers can't wait until a bad situation happens before acting and she was going in that direction so why wait?
Normally, I am all for officers being pro-active in these situations, but this video makes me think. I certainly feel for these guys that are on patrol, God knows what kind of situation they are walking into with every traffic stop they make. This situation was a judgement call, and I think this officer used bad judgement.
Maybe my monitor needs calibrating, but I don't know how you can see if she took a swing at either of them. I certainly can't.
In any case, he announced his intent to use his tazer on her before she supposedly took a swing at someone, so it's a moot point. The officer decided to use his tazer. Why? Because she wouldn't get out of her car? Wouldn't put her phone down? That seems excessive to me. Bad judgement on his part, from what we can see and know. Perhaps there was more to it, but we can't know that.
Did he draw his weapon? Or was it the tazer? She made reference to a gun. In either case, I have always been taught (as a civilian) to never draw a weapon unless I need to use it, to avoid escalation. Does this not apply to LEOs? What is the LEO doctrine on threatening someone with a weapon versus using it?
Also, driving with a suspended license, broken windshield, etc, is a civil, not a criminal offense, correct? Can you really be arrested and booked like a criminal for a broken windshield? For not wearing a seatbelt? Again, there are plenty of officers on the board, someone please clarify this.
AS I said, without knowing more, this seems to me like a judgement call. And it looks like bad judgement on his part.
Maybe my monitor needs calibrating, but I don't know how you can see if she took a swing at either of them. I certainly can't.
In any case, he announced his intent to use his tazer on her before she supposedly took a swing at someone, so it's a moot point. The officer decided to use his tazer. Why? Because she wouldn't get out of her car? Wouldn't put her phone down? That seems excessive to me. Bad judgement on his part, from what we can see and know. Perhaps there was more to it, but we can't know that.
Did he draw his weapon? Or was it the tazer? She made reference to a gun. In either case, I have always been taught (as a civilian) to never draw a weapon unless I need to use it, to avoid escalation. Does this not apply to LEOs? What is the LEO doctrine on threatening someone with a weapon versus using it?
Also, driving with a suspended license, broken windshield, etc, is a civil, not a criminal offense, correct? Can you really be arrested and booked like a criminal for a broken windshield? For not wearing a seatbelt? Again, there are plenty of officers on the board, someone please clarify this.
AS I said, without knowing more, this seems to me like a judgement call. And it looks like bad judgement on his part.
Lumberg
Opus Lover
I think the point here is obvious. He decides she needs to get out of the car. We need to give him the bene on that one; he knows he's being videotaped and he knows what justification he has procedurally.
If he had bodily reached in and forced her out of the car, he is putting himself and her in a precarious position; his holster is within her reach; they could end up on the ground; she may grip something inside the car awkwardly and end up with something twisted, strained, torn, and/or broken. The potential exists for lots of stuff to go wrong.
With the taser, he doesn't have to put himself in bodily contact with her. The heath effects of being tased are negligible. It's a win/win.
I don't think the matter is even disputable.
If he had bodily reached in and forced her out of the car, he is putting himself and her in a precarious position; his holster is within her reach; they could end up on the ground; she may grip something inside the car awkwardly and end up with something twisted, strained, torn, and/or broken. The potential exists for lots of stuff to go wrong.
With the taser, he doesn't have to put himself in bodily contact with her. The heath effects of being tased are negligible. It's a win/win.
I don't think the matter is even disputable.
Lumberg said:
Great post and I agree. Once she decided to resist arrest the officer has to be concerned with his safety in making the arrest and this was the best option for both himself and for the women. Who knows what the outcome would have been if he drew his weapon or forced her out of the car.
It was the second officer that entered the passenger side that she allegedly took a swing at and would explain why you can't see. Also, I've witnessed several people get tased and I have been stunned before and this lady was being ridiculous. She was still screaming when she was on her feet. She was a nut.