Sense of Entitlement......

SKYDIVNEKD

SKYDIVNEKD

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Ya know, I've been thinkin'/bothered by this for quite some time and have managed to get myself all riled(sp?) up about it so....I figured I'd vent here! :angry:

What ever happened to the "...earn what ya get..." mentality! Why all of a sudden are we supposed to give stuff to people who haven't "paid the price" for it?! What makes these idiots feel like they are entitled to it just because they are "here" with everyone else! ("here" being a relative term!).

Young guys/gals roll in and think they are entitled to the same perks as the guy/gal who's been there for fifteen years. WHY??? Because they don't wan tto put in the time, they just want everything RIGHT NOW!!! Screw payin' their dues!

It prolly went the same route as respect for your elders! This is now and I want it now seems to be the prevailing attitude and I think it blows! So if that is your attitude, you can kiss my @$$!!!! When you earn it, you can have it!

This rant is in part, frustration from work and in part, from a post I read earlier. I don't say much around here because it takes me so freakin' long to type it, I get over it by the time I'm done! But this topic gets my blood boilin' so I'm a rantin'!!

I'm sure I'm just repeatin' what others have said but I ain't said it until now. So, that's it! Agree or disagree at your leisure! ???

Floyd T. :sign:

PS: And I don't give a $h!t what your station in life is. If you have a million bucks or two cents, you are entitled to what you EARN!! And RESPECT is earned!!
 
Did someone poop in Floyd’s cheerios today? :p


You tell'em Floyd!! Who ever you are yellin' at! ;)
 
Floyd this is nothing new. It's been like that for the last 10-15 years. People just starting their careers out of school and they want top money now. :angry:
 
That's the old military jar head coming out of you. Not that I am saying it is a bad thing. I totally agree with where you are coming from. Most of the time I find that the kids just want an even playing field, but it comes across as "I want I want I want", just my 2 cents.

Emo
 
What ever happened to HONOR?! LOYALTY!! INTEGRITY?! When a hand shake meant you had the mans word for something?! Now it just means, "...I agree until something doesn't go my way then I'm gonna sue you for what I think I deserve...."! :angry:

I'm here to tell ya, if change doesn't occur, there will be fewer and fewer of us left who have any sense at all! ???

I truly believe being young and uninformed/uncaring was the best way to be! That way, you don't see all of the idiots for what they are!

If I haven't said it yet, "....DON"T expect to walk in on day one and get everything that the FOG's (for lack of a better term) are gettin'....."! YOU have to earn it!!!

Emo...yea, you may be right about the "jarhead" remark! As for the level playin' field goes, I think the problem starts at an early age when.....I don't even want to go THERE!!! ???

I'm out!

Floyd T. :sign:

PS: An example of "kids" wanting and even playin' field...

...a guy with one year on our department will get a $10,500.00 raise over a 24 month period. As a 17 year vet, mine will be a bit less. HE is bitchin' that he got screwed because he still isn't makin' what I'm makin'! Now this is close to a 30% increase in entry level salary. Find me anyone out there in the general work force makin' a 30% increase in 24 months! (excluding all y'all rich folks!!) And I thought I was gettin' 'em a good contract! :lookup:
 
That must be a work rant cause you haven't been here 15 years :) Of course, as a noobie here myself maybe I can't have an opinion. LOL!!

As another jarhead it feels good to bitch every once in a while doesn't it? :D
 
Brother Floyd, you get my vote bro.What office were yourunning for again? :p

Seriously tho, I agree with you, Respect (as well as other "perks") is not something you automatically get walking in the door, it is something you earn.


this part edited out for clarity of my thought: ???
And you CAN earn it if the current "Members" allow you to stay inside AND you act like you deserve it. But as always, this is just IMHO :D
 
For the sake of fairness...(please don't kill me)

This is not the absolute, but a generalization.

There are some young folks (or at least one :) ) who take care of their parent at an early age, plan for retirement at 18, VOTES IN EVERY ELECTION(!), volunteers time, donates to worthy causes, still opens the door for everyone, says "Thank You", says "You're Welcome" instead of "No Problem", gets FURIOUS when they have someone 65 years old delivering their pizza :angry:, realizes that "old" does not mean decrepid - but really means wise, even played in the community orchestra, etc.

In other words, there are at least a few good ones out there that DON'T take everything for granted. :)

But, I'll agree that most people my age ARE exactly the way you've described :(

Cheers,
Dixie
 
PuroBrat said:
.......it is something you earn if the current "Members" allow you to stay inside......
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Respect:
1: the condition of being honored (esteemed or respected or well regarded); "it is held in esteem"; "a man who has earned high regard"
2: an attitude of admiration or esteem;

The definition of respect above has nothing to do with the "members" allowing it.

I think I understand where you were going PB and would totally agree with your post had you put a period after "it is something you earn". I don't agree that the members have anything to do with "allowing" it. You either earn it or you don't.

FWIW, I would never lump ALL young people into the entitlement department just as I wouldn't lump all old people into the wise department. ;)
 
Allofus123 said:
....just as I wouldn't lump all old people into the wise department. ;)
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I don't necessarily mean like Yoda :p, just that 20, 30, 40+ years of extra life expreiences is someithng brought to the table.

Cheers,
Dixie
 
I absolutely agree that "ALL" young people are NOT in that category. The one's that aren't usually have had a good upbringing and have learned at an early age to "respect" what they have, not "expect" what they have!

We just need the good ones to keep headin' to the top!

Floyd T. :sign:
 
SKYDIVNEKD said:
I absolutely agree that "ALL" young people are NOT in that category. The one's that aren't usually have had a good upbringing and have learned at an early age to "respect" what they have, not "expect" what they have!

We just need the good ones to keep headin' to the top!

Floyd T. :sign:
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You hit the nail on the head. Its the way kids are raised these days, (not all but some) . My wife and I employ about 8 high school age kids at our store, some are great, but the ones we seem to have prob. with seem to extend from there home life, anywhere from makeing them quit with no notice because they are sending them to there ex. town to live because they cant handle them anymore , to haveing there dad call me to say he was going to kick my @ss for fireing his daughter because she had a bad attitude and wasnt doing her job. Its hard to expect morals and values from someone if they never see any at home. I just hope these bad ones are the exception and not the norm, or where will we be in 20 years. :( ???
 
"Its hard to expect morals and values from someone if they never see any at home."

Kind of says it all right there.

I am a HS teacher (I'm 33 myself - yeah a Gen Xer, but don't really relate to the whole 'misunderstood' schtick) and I see the deterioration daily. I used to wonder what was happening, then I met the parents........No need to wonder anymore. :(

I'm one of the 'yes sir - please & thank you' crowd. I know what I know and it's not nearly enough.

M. Gipson :)
 
gawntrail said:
I am a HS teacher (I'm 33 myself - yeah a Gen Xer, but don't really relate to the whole 'misunderstood' schtick) and I see the deterioration daily. I used to wonder what was happening, then I met the parents........No need to wonder anymore. :(

I'm one of the 'yes sir - please & thank you' crowd.
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Same age here -- I see it all the time as well. Had someone call me a "douche bag" because I said the active members of our fraternity should show some appreciate and "thank you's" to the alumni who were donating their time and money to the fraternity. Was told that "You shouldn't even anything if you expect anything in return. What do you want, your ass licked?"

What ever happened to saying "Thank you"? Even charities send out thank you notes. There's a big gap between expecting common courtesy and expecting an ass-licking. ;)
 
Most of it comes down to $25.00 a week allowances, NEW cars to drive to school, $150.00 sneakers.......! You can't hand a kid everything they want then expect them wait for the perks of long time employment. You can't let your kids listen to music about drugs, sex, and violence, idolize famous people that use drugs, have indiscriminate sex and commit violence.
If you have no control of your kids they won't respect you, and if they don't respect you they absolutly will not respect any one else. The really scary part of this is the ones we complain about are raising the next generation.
 
Floyd, I'm with ya on this one bro! Not all youngsters are guilty of it by any means, but I've dealt with my share of them.

Case in point: I just got a promotion and now supervise 20 people at my job. Monday was my first day back from vacation and I started the position. I was called a half hour after the night shift began and told that a young lady from one of the cottages here called in sick. Mind you, she did it 30 minutes after the time she should have started work. Then she wouldn't answer the phone when I tried to call her as I supervise this person.

She finally called me back at 1:30am and said she had planned on coming but was too sick. I said it seems like you would have known this earlier in the evening and called so we could find a replacement.

Well, today came time for the meeting with her and she had the nerve to say that she understood the policy but wasn't in any condition to work that night! WTF? Do you not get it? Well, she'll be getting a written reprimand and fired if it happens again.

I guess for me it's the folks I see coming to work here that are fresh out of college and come in saying stuff like, "Oh I need more money than that!" or "Oh, I can't work those hours because I have a boyfriend and we go out on those nights!"

WTF makes these clowns think that they have the gaul to demand anything? They just got out of school and don't know jack squat! Geez! I always tell them in interviews that I guess this is not the place for them, may I suggest the Burger King down the street......
LMFAO
 
moki said:
gawntrail said:
I am a HS teacher (I'm 33 myself - yeah a Gen Xer, but don't really relate to the whole 'misunderstood' schtick) and I see the deterioration daily. I used to wonder what was happening, then I met the parents........No need to wonder anymore. :(

I'm one of the 'yes sir - please & thank you' crowd.
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Same age here -- I see it all the time as well. Had someone call me a "douche bag" because I said the active members of our fraternity should show some appreciate and "thank you's" to the alumni who were donating their time and money to the fraternity. Was told that "You shouldn't even anything if you expect anything in return. What do you want, your ass licked?"

What ever happened to saying "Thank you"? Even charities send out thank you notes. There's a big gap between expecting common courtesy and expecting an ass-licking. ;)
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dude,


that shi%^ would never fly here at my frat.
"the elders" should be given the respect they deserve. even if they are coc*&'s, you still need to show respect as they have gone before and made it what it is today.


On a side note, only pair of shoes even close to $100 that I own are a pair of nice dress black shoes for job interviews and work.

while I will spend money on what I think is worth it,
shoes need not cost more than $60 [and that is a stretch]
shirts can go up to $40 or so if nice
jeans are just jeans so $40 max.


got a $10 allowance in H.S., which was great, also worked a part-time job so I could do stuff I wanted to.




the drugs, sex, and all that is in the media enough that one cannot shelter us, and those kids that were sheltered, are finding out here [at school] that the world is not all Bambi and roses. educating your kids and talking to them is the only way to help. while my arents are not the best role models, I think I have learned enough values to get me through the day.
yes I'll make out w/ drunk girls
but I also open the door for people
and collect cans for food shelters
I may drink a lot and watch copius amounts of porn, but also visited my grandma once a week [while she was still alive] in HS, when I could have done other stuff.


so yeah, most of us are not perfect, but we're not all co^%$s





on the otherhand, "The World is not Enough" [James Bond]
so it is time to make like Wall Street, have fun, kick a$$, take names and make mad $$$$.



oh yeah, and I WISH I GOT A 10K PLUS RAISE AFTER 2 YEARS! WHO THE F^&* COMPLAINS ABOUT THAT?
 
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