MrPerfecto
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Let the numbers do the talking here
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So… We’re Allowed to Want to Buy Cigars, Just Not Good Ones?
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MrPerfecto
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To be clear i have never tried to acquire any of these things from anyone. Just saying there is a childish demeaner here for newcomers getting lambasted publicly. Where everyone joins in on raoasting this new person with a song made about them personally. I am just calling it out. Besides the fact its all over fake cubans. What a shame. It is all fun and games until the pendulum swings the other way.......No one seeoms to understand the rules or even what this site is. "Its not a tading forums" yet the forum has more trade pots then passes. "Its about cubans" but its not its about all rare cigars. Imagine being a newcomer here. To be honest I never bothered with any of the trade nonsense because of this behaivior which is known in this community. "Bad form" is what they say while acting in bad childish form at the same time. Rod being the ring leaderI think you're reading into it too much. It applies for anything, not just hard to find cigars, or Cubans. That was just an example Rod used when writing the rules.
The four month rule has always applied with new members, and even members in good standing who have disappeared for a few years or more. In my opinion it has always been fair across the board. Even case by case basis scenarios. I've had members reach out to me in the past who have been gone for long periods asking me if I thought it would be OK for them to post a sale. When I've instructed them to reach out to Rod, I've always seen him give them his blessing to proceed.
Things have changed a lot (when that rule was written) since then/when I joined almost 20 years ago. The HTF stuff was pretty even when it came to Cuban cigars and stuff like Fuente rare releases, and other non-Cuban cigars. That's not really the case anymore, but the rules still apply more or less.
Anyway, if someone shows up in their first post is wanting to sell a box of Mac noodles, it's going to go down the same way as if he was selling some rare box of Cuban cigars. Only, I wouldn't be sending him a private message trying to work a deal in the background.
jfields
Where did all my money go?
It's a cigar forum, based heavily on community, friendship, and family. Trading, buying, and selling just happens to be an aside, but not the main focus. If this was just a trading place, then we might as well have called it Online Humidor.
I have bought and traded cigars there for 15 years or more, and couldn't tell you the name of one member unless I knew them from here already. Something tells me I'm wasting my breath though. It seems someone pissed in your Cheerios today, and nothing anyone else can tell you would convince you otherwise. Did something happen to you in another thread that I'm not aware of? I could understand you acting this way if you had of only been here a few months or less.
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What fake Cubans are you talking about?
jfields
Where did all my money go?
ETA: Your post is just one sub forum you highlighted out of several. To give it context you should've added up the total number of post on all of the other sub forms combined. I'm betting trading and selling would appear minuscule.
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hydro-terp
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I will agree that some newbs got handled a little rough lately but all of this seems a little much.
Now to more important stuff, what is everyone's favorite food network star?
HT
Now to more important stuff, what is everyone's favorite food network star?
HT
Your rant was a little hard to follow, but I think I get where you’re coming from. Let me clear something up... nobody here wakes up plotting “let’s go roast a newbie today.” New members are always welcome -- this has always been an important point for me, as I'm sure many fogs will attest to.
The roasting only happens when someone does the following, in exact order:
This place has been running well for over 25 years. We’ve built real friendships here, not a pop-up marketplace. Money doesn’t drive me, never has, which is exactly why I’ll keep running CP the way the community wants it run; not the way one guy with a grudge (or someone who wishes to advertise here) thinks it should be.
If getting lightly ribbed for ignoring basic etiquette melts you, then yeah… CigarPass probably isn’t the snowflake-safe space you’re looking for. We’re actually a pretty damn kind, generous bunch once you’re not acting like the forum owes you something on day one. I don't think you get it, as if you did, you'd already know this after having been here 10 years.
You’re more than welcome to grab a chair, light up, and join the conversation like everyone else has for the last two-and-a-half decades. If your skin is that thin where a silly song (that doesn't even involve you) is that painful, then you know where the door is. Your call.
The roasting only happens when someone does the following, in exact order:
- Registers.
- Immediately ignores the automated welcome PM that lands in their inbox the second they join (the one that literally can’t be missed and takes 45 seconds to read).
- Ignores the sticky threads and rules that take maybe two minutes total to read.
- Gets gently nudged by members - “Welcome! Mind posting an intro?”
- Doubles down with attitude instead of just following the rules and ettiequte of the community.
This place has been running well for over 25 years. We’ve built real friendships here, not a pop-up marketplace. Money doesn’t drive me, never has, which is exactly why I’ll keep running CP the way the community wants it run; not the way one guy with a grudge (or someone who wishes to advertise here) thinks it should be.
If getting lightly ribbed for ignoring basic etiquette melts you, then yeah… CigarPass probably isn’t the snowflake-safe space you’re looking for. We’re actually a pretty damn kind, generous bunch once you’re not acting like the forum owes you something on day one. I don't think you get it, as if you did, you'd already know this after having been here 10 years.
You’re more than welcome to grab a chair, light up, and join the conversation like everyone else has for the last two-and-a-half decades. If your skin is that thin where a silly song (that doesn't even involve you) is that painful, then you know where the door is. Your call.
MrPerfecto
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MrPerfecto
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"CigarPass probably isn’t the snowflake-safe space you’re looking for. We’re actually a pretty damn kind, generous bunch once you’re not acting like the forum owes you something on day one. " A bit passive agressive and contradicting. Interesting… calling others snowflakes while melting down over a newb asking about cigars. Safe space vibes are coming from your side, not mine.
MrPerfecto
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The point is this: making a public spectacle out of roasting new people is bad form and honestly pretty childish. If you don’t want someone responding in a way you don’t like, keep it to PMs. Otherwise, don’t be surprised when someone pushes back.
Why are you deleting posts? Roast me tough guy, I.D.G.A.F.
MrPerfecto
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MrPerfecto
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MrPerfecto
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Maybe you can go think about it while you smoke one of those fake cubans?
MrPerfecto
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I will grant you the first one the second one wich is the highest is mostly (more then half) just happy b-day posts. but regardless it is called cigar pass and the market place has more then the pass section. No one ever said "this is only a marketplace for trading forum" I know you want to try to win this debate. But..... not working out.
MrPerfecto
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if we were to use your logic maybe we should call it "General cigar forum for saying happy birthday?"
insight
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Hot take. Lots of people have done that, many that would go on Facebook or a site like OLH and sell the rarities for a fat markup over what they paid here from someone trying to hook them up.
DomnioMaestro
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Ya know....as a newbie......
I'm glad I found this place. I spent a lot of time on another forum (I didnt know this one existed), building those friendships and having a lot of great conversations. But time inexorably marched on, and a lot of those guys moved on in life to other adventures and experiences.
Over the 15 years I was on that other forum, I met a lot of great people in person. We shared and traded and laughed and cried together. And in that time I was lucky enough to be gifted many cigars. And I gifted many out as well. And in the ones I received, there were a handful of those cubans that everyone raves over.
I am honestly humbled by the generosity that was shown to me, and honored to try something that I had never tried before. And out of the 6 or 7 cubans I was gifted, there was only one that stood out. And I wish I could remember what it was. Maybe I would go on a crusade to try to obtain some more. The others were just "Meh".
To cut down on this already-to-long post.....Personally, I dont come here to get freebies, or do trades, or get bombed, or whatever the vernacular is now. I've spent my time lurking (for the most part), and getting to know some of the folks here a little by their discussions with other people. I thoroughly enjoy the conversations and one day hope to join in (more often). The amount of knowledge I thought I had has been dwarfed just by what I've scratched the surface on here. And I am grateful to have been accepted tentatively to the party.
I'm working toward being more involved....but I'm still recovering from the chewing-out that I got when my better half found out how much I spent on some bourbon here a couple weeks ago. (more of a 'this close to christmas?' type thing than anything else)
On a side note....I'm going to have to go buy some more popcorn.....these posts are too much fun to not have any snacks for.....
I'm glad I found this place. I spent a lot of time on another forum (I didnt know this one existed), building those friendships and having a lot of great conversations. But time inexorably marched on, and a lot of those guys moved on in life to other adventures and experiences.
Over the 15 years I was on that other forum, I met a lot of great people in person. We shared and traded and laughed and cried together. And in that time I was lucky enough to be gifted many cigars. And I gifted many out as well. And in the ones I received, there were a handful of those cubans that everyone raves over.
I am honestly humbled by the generosity that was shown to me, and honored to try something that I had never tried before. And out of the 6 or 7 cubans I was gifted, there was only one that stood out. And I wish I could remember what it was. Maybe I would go on a crusade to try to obtain some more. The others were just "Meh".
To cut down on this already-to-long post.....Personally, I dont come here to get freebies, or do trades, or get bombed, or whatever the vernacular is now. I've spent my time lurking (for the most part), and getting to know some of the folks here a little by their discussions with other people. I thoroughly enjoy the conversations and one day hope to join in (more often). The amount of knowledge I thought I had has been dwarfed just by what I've scratched the surface on here. And I am grateful to have been accepted tentatively to the party.
I'm working toward being more involved....but I'm still recovering from the chewing-out that I got when my better half found out how much I spent on some bourbon here a couple weeks ago. (more of a 'this close to christmas?' type thing than anything else)
On a side note....I'm going to have to go buy some more popcorn.....these posts are too much fun to not have any snacks for.....
MrPerfecto
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Show me lots of examples then. Not just one. Lots. Otherwise I will just chalk this up as a bare assertion fallacy. I have yet to see it happen in my time here. You would think those guys would have been publicly blasted here. Have yet to see that. Just newbs inquiring.
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You sure are caught up on fake cuban cigars and willing to die on that hill. Show us proof that this board is smoking 99% fake cuban cigars.