CigarStone
For once, knowledge is making me poor!
I just noticed the quote in your signature and while I am strikingly handsome and stunningly brilliant, you don't need to advertise it. 
WTF? @jcinpa
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CigarStone
For once, knowledge is making me poor!
I fail to see how falling out of a hammock has anything to do with this?
Attitude and willingness to try new things can add to a women's hotness dramatically. Maybe he thinks you're pretty because of your willingness... We all know it's not the attitude.
Judging by his racist comment yesterday and lack of apology, I'd brush it off as ignorance Jeff @CigarStone
CigarStone
For once, knowledge is making me poor!
I beg to differ. It takes a certain attitude to be willing to try new things. Man or woman!
I tried sleeping in a hammock in below freezing weather. I fell out, I broke the hammock, but none of those things Makes me pretty.
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Hahaha. It came from my disastrous first thread here. Itās probably not known enough as āNevermindā and other stuff around here, I should change it.
@bfreebern My comment was not intended to be racist, and once you called attention to it, I immediately realized how it could be seen that way and fixed it immediately. I thank you for pointing it out. However, it was a place name not a race reference and the term is frequently used by Chicagoans (and former Chicagoans who still love the city), and like the other geographical reference often used with Chicago ā¦
www.urbandictionary.com
Sometimes, when people are referring to things without any sense of racism, because we are so hyper-sensitized to it these days, it can be taken that way. The proper response, when that is pointed out, is to quickly remove the offending reference. A quick example of this, during a company training I was presenting last year, I used the term tar baby to indicate an intractable problem one cannot extricate oneself from. Iām nearing 70 and I was referring to the old Brer Rabbit stories. I had no idea younger people would be unfamiliar with those stories, which were universally known in my youth.
That caused a complaint about racism and I issued a public apology for using the term, though my intention was not about anything racial at all. I realized how it could be perceived, especially since the reference was no longer recognized by a large proportion of my audience. I could have defended the use of the term, but being emphatically NOT racist and being a fairly sensitive, guy, I realized the correct response was to explain the term and apologize for my use of it. A better reference would have been quagmire.
However, in todayās society, we are hypersensitized to racial references, to a degree that one can stumble into them accidentally without any racist intent whatsoever, which is what I did yesterday. The term was used in the same sense as the one linked above from Urban Dictionary. Unfortunately, the epithet āracistā is tossed about so ubiquitously these days, perhaps second only to the use of the term āNaziā or āFascistā, that it has lost much of its power. I thank you for pointing out how my term yesterday could have been construed as racist (although that thought never entered my mind), and I promptly removed it, which any sensitive person should and would do upon the realization that the term used was clumsily used. Iām no racist, but I am getting tired of the term being so overused.
And so to you, sir, I say ā¦
@bfreebern My comment was not intended to be racist, and once you called attention to it, I immediately realized how it could be seen that way and fixed it immediately. I thank you for pointing it out. However, it was a place name not a race reference and the term is frequently used by Chicagoans (and former Chicagoans who still love the city), and like the other geographical reference often used with Chicago ā¦
Urban Dictionary: Chiraq
Chiraq: Chiraq is a nickname given to Americas third largest city, Chicago. Chicago was given this nickname because there are more murders and [violence] that...
www.urbandictionary.com
Sometimes, when people are referring to things without any sense of racism, because we are so hyper-sensitized to it these days, it can be taken that way. The proper response, when that is pointed out, is to quickly remove the offending reference. A quick example of this, during a company training I was presenting last year, I used the term tar baby to indicate an intractable problem one cannot extricate oneself from. Iām nearing 70 and I was referring to the old Brer Rabbit stories. I had no idea younger people would be unfamiliar with those stories, which were universally known in my youth.
That caused a complaint about racism and I issued a public apology for using the term, though my intention was not about anything racial at all. I realized how it could be perceived, especially since the reference was no longer recognized by a large proportion of my audience. I could have defended the use of the term, but being emphatically NOT racist and being a fairly sensitive, guy, I realized the correct response was to explain the term and apologize for my use of it. A better reference would have been quagmire.
However, in todayās society, we are hypersensitized to racial references, to a degree that one can stumble into them accidentally without any racist intent whatsoever, which is what I did yesterday. The term was used in the same sense as the one linked above from Urban Dictionary. Unfortunately, the epithet āracistā is tossed about so ubiquitously these days, perhaps second only to the use of the term āNaziā or āFascistā, that it has lost much of its power. I thank you for pointing out how my term yesterday could have been construed as racist (although that thought never entered my mind), and I promptly removed it, which any sensitive person should and would do upon the realization that the term used was clumsily used. Iām no racist, but I am getting tired of the term being so overused.
And so to you, sir, I say ā¦
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At the time I was making an ass of myself in that thread, it was kind of funny if you were participating in it. I kind of forgot about it until just now, actually, and realized that anyone who was not in that thread would have no clue about what it was in reference to.
It was funny at the time, but makes no sense nowāremoved and no offense was intended.
At the time I was making an ass of myself in that thread, it was kind of funny if you were participating in it. I kind of forgot about it until just now, actually, and realized that anyone who was not in that thread would have no clue about what it was in reference to.
It was funny at the time, but makes no sense nowāremoved and no offense was intended.
Hahaha. It came from my disastrous first thread here. Itās probably not known enough as āNevermindā and other stuff around here, I should change it.
@bfreebern My comment was not intended to be racist, and once you called attention to it, I immediately realized how it could be seen that way and fixed it immediately. I thank you for pointing it out. However, it was a place name not a race reference and the term is frequently used by Chicagoans (and former Chicagoans who still love the city), and like the other geographical reference often used with Chicago ā¦
Urban Dictionary: Chiraq
Chiraq: Chiraq is a nickname given to Americas third largest city, Chicago. Chicago was given this nickname because there are more murders and [violence] that...
Sometimes, when people are referring to things without any sense of racism, because we are so hyper-sensitized to it these days, it can be taken that way. The proper response, when that is pointed out, is to quickly remove the offending reference. A quick example of this, during a company training I was presenting last year, I used the term tar baby to indicate an intractable problem one cannot extricate oneself from. Iām nearing 70 and I was referring to the old Brer Rabbit stories. I had no idea younger people would be unfamiliar with those stories, which were universally known in my youth.
That caused a complaint about racism and I issued a public apology for using the term, though my intention was not about anything racial at all. I realized how it could be perceived, especially since the reference was no longer recognized by a large proportion of my audience. I could have defended the use of the term, but being emphatically NOT racist and being a fairly sensitive, guy, I realized the correct response was to explain the term and apologize for my use of it. A better reference would have been quagmire.
However, in todayās society, we are hypersensitized to racial references, to a degree that one can stumble into them accidentally without any racist intent whatsoever, which is what I did yesterday. The term was used in the same sense as the one linked above from Urban Dictionary. Unfortunately, the epithet āracistā is tossed about so ubiquitously these days, perhaps second only to the use of the term āNaziā or āFascistā, that it has lost much of its power. I thank you for pointing out how my term yesterday could have been construed as racist (although that thought never entered my mind), and I promptly removed it, which any sensitive person should and would do upon the realization that the term used was clumsily used. Iām no racist, but I am getting tired of the term being so overused.
And so to you, sir, I say ā¦
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I doubt I'm the only one who thought Chicongo was a racist, ethnic slur. If you look up Chicongo in your same urban dictionary, it refers to:
"Chicongo" is a derogatory and offensive term for Chicago, Illinois.
The term is considered an ethnic slur, typically used in internet slang. It combines the name "Chicago" with "Congo," a country in Africa. The term is associated with racist connotations, referring to the city's significant Black population in a disparaging way.
Spin it how you want to. You knew you were using it and this is just a half assed way to justify you using the term. I don't care how old you are, you should know better. Unless of course, if you feel that the term isn't derogatory and offensive/racist. I'm leaning towards the latter and you're only posting this because I called you on it. I've never felt the need to block anyone, in my 20+ years here, but you're soon to the be first.
And to you sir, I say....
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I did not look it up, and what was in my head at the time was the decades of violence in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) with the ubiquitous violence in Chicago. It is something that can occur in someone's head making that violence connection without thinking about a racial connotation. Interesting that you seem to be able to read my mind, however.
Was it inartful in retrospect? Yes. Was it intentional on my part? Certainly not. Your point is taken, you can stop being a
now. I get it. Message received.
Was it inartful in retrospect? Yes. Was it intentional on my part? Certainly not. Your point is taken, you can stop being a
now. I get it. Message received.
Very creative way to shift blame. Inartful, nice term usage. I get it now. You have no qualms about using a derogatory, ethnic slur if you think it's not necessarily untrue. What's next?
Are you insinuating that I'm a drag queen or a drama queen? I have been known to wear a tiara at New Years, but if you've been here long enough, you'd know that blue isn't my color.
Are you insinuating that I'm a drag queen or a drama queen? I have been known to wear a tiara at New Years, but if you've been here long enough, you'd know that blue isn't my color.
CigarStone
For once, knowledge is making me poor!
John @JCinPA with all due respect, you should stop writing diatribes explaining yourself when you make a mistake, it comes off as long winded excuses.
Simply fix it, apologize, and move on. No need for life history lessons here.
ETA: And you should never again slings insults or insinuations at highly respected members! Even if does own a tiara.
Simply fix it, apologize, and move on. No need for life history lessons here.
ETA: And you should never again slings insults or insinuations at highly respected members! Even if does own a tiara.
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The diatribe is because bfreebern is still accusing me of knowingly using a racially charged term intentionally. Thatās offensive. It was a good call when he made it in the other thread, I recognized it immediately and realized it was a very good call on his part, and I changed it.
And Iām not āmaking long-winded excusesā or trying to āshift blame.ā Ask yourself this question. What kind of moron after being here in this community for several months would wade in and knowingly, intentionally use a racially insensitive term if thatās what he thought it was? The answer is nobody would! Turns out I should have used Chiraq instead, but the only thing in my mind at the time was the violence in Chicago and the historical fact that almost six million people have died in The Congo in the last 30 years. One can make that connection as human tragedy on an epic scale without thinking about race at all.
What grinds my gears is beefreeborn continuing to insinuate Iām a slack-jawed, toothless bigot who just got caught dropping something akin to the N-word in here thinking it would go over well, then backpedaling when it didnāt. I didnāt know it was a derogatory ethnic slur when I used it. Thatās a fact, and I really donāt care how it comes off when I take offense to it.
It was stupid, it was thoughtless, not intentional, and it was a good call on his part at the time. Yet bfreeborn continues to go on about it like an HOA Karen. Iām done now. You guys continue by all means.
Edit: That Iām occasionally stupid I can agree with wholeheartedly. Being called an ignorant racist. Not OK with that.
CigarStone
For once, knowledge is making me poor!
Hahaha. It came from my disastrous first thread here. Itās probably not known enough as āNevermindā and other stuff around here, I should change it.
@bfreebern My comment was not intended to be racist, and once you called attention to it, I immediately realized how it could be seen that way and fixed it immediately. I thank you for pointing it out. However, it was a place name not a race reference and the term is frequently used by Chicagoans (and former Chicagoans who still love the city), and like the other geographical reference often used with Chicago ā¦
Urban Dictionary: Chiraq
Chiraq: Chiraq is a nickname given to Americas third largest city, Chicago. Chicago was given this nickname because there are more murders and [violence] that...
Sometimes, when people are referring to things without any sense of racism, because we are so hyper-sensitized to it these days, it can be taken that way. The proper response, when that is pointed out, is to quickly remove the offending reference. A quick example of this, during a company training I was presenting last year, I used the term tar baby to indicate an intractable problem one cannot extricate oneself from. Iām nearing 70 and I was referring to the old Brer Rabbit stories. I had no idea younger people would be unfamiliar with those stories, which were universally known in my youth.
That caused a complaint about racism and I issued a public apology for using the term, though my intention was not about anything racial at all. I realized how it could be perceived, especially since the reference was no longer recognized by a large proportion of my audience. I could have defended the use of the term, but being emphatically NOT racist and being a fairly sensitive, guy, I realized the correct response was to explain the term and apologize for my use of it. A better reference would have been quagmire.
However, in todayās society, we are hypersensitized to racial references, to a degree that one can stumble into them accidentally without any racist intent whatsoever, which is what I did yesterday. The term was used in the same sense as the one linked above from Urban Dictionary. Unfortunately, the epithet āracistā is tossed about so ubiquitously these days, perhaps second only to the use of the term āNaziā or āFascistā, that it has lost much of its power. I thank you for pointing out how my term yesterday could have been construed as racist (although that thought never entered my mind), and I promptly removed it, which any sensitive person should and would do upon the realization that the term used was clumsily used. Iām no racist, but I am getting tired of the term being so overused.
And so to you, sir, I say ā¦
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All of this "War and Peace" should have been...............
Sorry! I screwed up.
....exactly.
jayro75
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Because that makes it better
Clearly you aren't getting the point. Maybe step back take a deep breath and come back when you're ready to say "My bad. I screwed up!" and stop justifying how your not a racist while acting like a racist.
Did John push you out again?
