I for one would like to appologise for helping taint this thread. It was wrong, pointless, and I never should have taken the bait anyway.
I'm not upset at all and I do respect oposite points of view. fllbrent made his case in a rational respectfull way despite how much beer hey may have had at the time.

I very much respect and appreciate his point of view despite disagreeing with it.
The only defense I may have is that there are people in the world who would like to see me and my family dead just because we are americans. The exact reason the people on September 11th two years ago were killed. Right now there are men and women dying for me to make sure myself and my family are not in fact killed as some would like. They do this out of a sence of duty and I am very grateful that they are in fact willing and ready to make the ultimate sacrifice for me. This is the sentence I could not let go.
God bless all of the innocent children who were bombed back to the stoneage by our 'American Boys' because we want to rule the world.
I could go into how historically isolationistic this nation has been. How reluctant we have been to go to wars overseas. I could talk about how nice it would be if we could be isolationists now and just make our own cars and vcr's while the rest of the world went to hell and left us alone. I could point out that national defense is impossible on our own beaches in this age of missles, suitecase bombs, biological weapons of mass destruction. The thing is though, beyond all that, it is just plain wrong to allow those 'American Boys' to die for me without at least a word in there defense.
I appologise for helping take this thread in a wrong direction. This would be better suited for a diferent thread of its own. For my part I have spoken my mind, I will change no minds, and I have no intention no matter what else may be said or said about me to repond again in this thread except this:
God Blees all those who died that tragic day, and all of us who must always remember.