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The GAS Pass

Here is the inventory of cigars-

#1- AF Opus X Perfecxion X
#2- AF Opus X Reserva D'Chateau
#3- AF Opus X xXx "Power Ranger"
#4- AF Opus X Fuente Fuente
#5- AF Opus X Super Belicoso (taken by Denverdog)
#6- AF Anejo #77 "Shark"
#7- AF Anejo #49
#8- AF Anejo #46 (taken by Denverdog)
#9- AF Anejo #50 (taken by Keith S)
#10- AF Don Carlos Edicion de Aniversario Toro
#11- AF Hemi WOAM
#12- AF Hemi Signature Maduro
#13- AF Hemi Masterpiece Maduro
#14- AF Between the Lines (taken by TKOEPP)
#15- AF 8-5-8 Sungrown
#16- Padron 1926 80th Anni Maduro
#17- Is not in the pass
#18- Padron 1926 #1 Natural
#19- Padron 40th Anni Maduro
#20- Padron 40th Anni Natural
#21- Tat Maravilla (taken by TKOEPP)
#22- Tat Noellas Reserva (taken by TKOEPP)
#23- Tat Cojonu 2003
#24- Tat Cojonu 2006
#25- Tat Havana VI Verocu No. 1 "West" (taken by Keith S)
#26- Tat Havana VI Verocu No. 2 "East" (taken by Keith S)
#27- Tat Cabaiguan Guapos (taken by TKOEPP)
#28- Don Pepin El Centurion Guerreros
#29- Padilla 32 Torpedo (taken by Denverdog)
#30- Ashton VSG Torpedo
#31- Ashton ESG 20 Year Salute Churchill
#32- Camacho Triple Maduro 11/18
#33- Diamond Crown Maximus Churchill #2
#34- Diamond Crown CFW Pyramid No. 7 Maduro
#35- AVO 80th
#36- AVO 787 Perfecto (taken by smellysell)
#37- Drew Estate Liga Privada #9
#38- La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso
#39- Davidoff Winston Churchill Chequers
#40- Davidoff Millennium Robusto
#41- Davidoff Anniversary Diademas Finas
#42- CAO Odessy Coffin (put by TKOEPP)
#43- LG Chisel (put by TKOEPP)
#44- LFD Cammie Lancero (put by TKOEPP)
#45- LFD Limitado I (put by TKOEPP)
#46- Zino Platinum DGrand Tubo (put by TKOEPP)
#47- Oliva Serie V Torpedo (put by TKOEPP)
#48- Regalo corona (put by TKOEPP)
#49- LFD Cammy Lancero (put by Keith S)
#50- LFD 2007 BTTB Outlaw (put by Keith S) mmm, yummy :)
#51- LFD A (put by Keith S)
#52- J Garcia Nacionales W Corona (put by Keith S) (taken by smellysell)
#53- Padron Delicias Natural (put by Keith S)
#54- Tat Black (put by Denverdog)
#55- Padron 64 Exclusivo Maduro (put by Denverdog) (taken by smellysell)
#56- Cien Anos Churchill (put by Denverdog)
#57- Hemi Classic Maduro (put by Denverdog)
#58- Ramon y Ramon tribute Familia (put by Smellysell)
#59- Tat Cojuna 2003 (put by Smellysell)
#60- LFD O/N DL Lancero (put by Smellysell)
#61- Padron 1926 #35 maduro (put by Smellysell)

This is how it plays out exactly in the pass as we speak. I went ahead and listed what everyone put or took based on the list and the inventory of cigars, so that you had a clear pic of what might have happened. Let me know when and I have my P's and T's ready.

Jim
 
Then the cigars are as they should be.

TKoepp took the Padron 26 #1 Maduro.

Slight mis-numbering issue. No biggie.
 
I am having just a bit of difficulty determining the dollar amount for two of the cigars I would like-

RR Familia $-?
LFD 2007 BTTB Outlaw $-?

Can you help me out Jeff?

Jim
 
Alright here is my proposed p's and t's-

T #11 WOAM/P #62 Anejo #50
T LG Chisel/P #63 Opus X Super Belicoso
T LFD BTTB/P #64 Padron 1926 #9 maduro
T Tat Black/P Tat Havana VI No. 1 "West"

Let me know if I am way off and I will change it. :)

Jim
 
I would also like to add the RR Familia to the list-

T #11 WOAM/P #62 Anejo #50
T #43 LG Chisel/P #63 Opus X Super Belicoso
T #50 LFD BTTB/P #64 Padron 1926 #9 maduro
T #54 Tat Black/P Tat Havana VI No. 1 "West"
T #58 RR famailia/P AVO 787 (I thought I had an East, but don't)

That about does it.

Jim

Edit: to say I dod not have an east.
 
stepthirteen said:
I would also like to add the RR Familia to the list-

T #11 WOAM/P #62 Anejo #50
T #43 LG Chisel/P #63 Opus X Super Belicoso
T #50 LFD BTTB/P #64 Padron 1926 #9 maduro
T #54 Tat Black/P Tat Havana VI No. 1 "West"
T #58 RR famailia/P AVO 787

That about does it.

Jim
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1) Good.
2) Good.
3) Good.
4) MSRP/rarity do not match. Tatuaje Black @ $12, almost impossible to find right now -- and probably will be until April/May-ish. Tatuaje "West" @ $10.00 and very, very easy to find -- even below $10.00 at certain retailers.

http://www.vitolas.net/displayimage.php?al...cat=0&pos=3
http://www.vitolas.net/displayimage.php?al...cat=0&pos=0

5) ?? No idea about the RR familia. I know it's "rare" but MSRP is a crapshoot, considering smelly says he paid $6. Anyone care to be the judge?
 
jlada said:
stepthirteen said:
T #58 RR famailia/P AVO 787

That about does it.

Jim
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5) ?? No idea about the RR familia. I know it's "rare" but MSRP is a crapshoot, considering smelly says he paid $6. Anyone care to be the judge?
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The only reason I paid $6 for them was that the people at the shop didn't realize what they had, remember that the Party 150s in the same humidor were only $6 too. A well established member told me when I was thinking about buying these that he though ~$15 would be a reasonable price to pay. That being said, the toughest thing about finding a put for one of these is rarity.
 
Anyone want to throw some ideas out for what types of sticks my match the familia? I will modify the tat black put, but I have no idea on the familia.

Jim
 
So that there is no reason to believe I did not hit the mark with these lets do this-

T #11 WOAM/P #62 Anejo #50
T #43 LG Chisel/P #63 Opus X Super Belicoso
T #50 LFD BTTB/P #64 Padron 1926 #9 maduro
T #54 Tat Black/P #65 Casa Fuente Churchill
T #58 RR famailia/#66 La Aurora 100 Anos Churchill

I hope these work alright!!

An additional put below-

P #67 Opus X Perfecxion #2

Let me know!

Jim
 
Wow, very generous, Jim!

I hate to bust balls... but the pass already has a La Aurora 100 Anos Churchill @ stick #56. Unless putting the duplicate is completely unavoidable, please try to find a different stick.

jlada said:
For future Puts/Takes, let's try to avoid duplicates. Duplicate marcas are fine, but having duplicate vitolas of the same marca seems to promote redundancy as well as moderate unfairness and to the remaining passers. I'd just like to see a good variety to maintain fairness for everyone later in the pass. As I didn't make this a rule from the get-go (d'oh! still learning), your Put/Take on the Tat Coj 2k3 is fine, Justin. But for the future passers, please try to avoid putting in a duplicate, if it is at all possible. Admittedly, I'm somewhat of a Tatuaje whore :whistling: , so it really doesn't bother me if it makes it back to me... :rolleyes:. But... you understand what I'm getting at.
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Ah, your not busting my balls, this is about learning and pass etiquette right? Lord knows I need to learn about etiquette. Let's try this-

T #11 WOAM/P #62 Anejo #50
T #43 LG Chisel/P #63 Opus X Super Belicoso
T #50 LFD BTTB/P #64 Padron 1926 #9 maduro
T #54 Tat Black/P #65 Casa Fuente Churchill
T #58 RR famailia/#66 ESG 20 Year Salute Robusto

P #67 Opus X Perfexcion #2


Jim
 
Jeff,

Any decision on these Puts and Takes yet?

T #11 WOAM/P #62 Anejo #50
T #43 LG Chisel/P #63 Opus X Super Belicoso
T #50 LFD BTTB/P #64 Padron 1926 #9 maduro
T #54 Tat Black/P #65 Casa Fuente Churchill
T #58 RR famailia/#66 ESG 20 Year Salute Robusto

P #67 Opus X Perfexcion #2

Jim
 
stepthirteen said:
Jeff,

Any decision on these Puts and Takes yet?

T #11 WOAM/P #62 Anejo #50
T #43 LG Chisel/P #63 Opus X Super Belicoso
T #50 LFD BTTB/P #64 Padron 1926 #9 maduro
T #54 Tat Black/P #65 Casa Fuente Churchill
T #58 RR famailia/#66 ESG 20 Year Salute Robusto

P #67 Opus X Perfexcion #2

Jim
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Sorry, didn't really get a chance to look last night. Considering the USPS isn't open on Sunday anyway -- no big deal.

Most of them look awesome (and very generous, thank you!) to me, but I'm still not 100% certain about the Ramon y Ramon. It's just such a rarity that it makes it difficulty to judge its value unless you've had experience with them before -- which I haven't. As smellysell put it:

smellysell said:
A well established member told me when I was thinking about buying these that he though ~$15 would be a reasonable price to pay. That being said, the toughest thing about finding a put for one of these is rarity.
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I'd love to hear input from everyone else -- perhaps someone can add a .02 that will give a proper assessment to this situation.
 
I'd say the $$$ for the ESG make up for the rarity IMO. I'd love to hear some FOG opinions though.
 
jlada said:
stepthirteen said:
Jeff,

Any decision on these Puts and Takes yet?

T #11 WOAM/P #62 Anejo #50
T #43 LG Chisel/P #63 Opus X Super Belicoso
T #50 LFD BTTB/P #64 Padron 1926 #9 maduro
T #54 Tat Black/P #65 Casa Fuente Churchill
T #58 RR famailia/#66 ESG 20 Year Salute Robusto

P #67 Opus X Perfexcion #2

Jim
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Sorry, didn't really get a chance to look last night. Considering the USPS isn't open on Sunday anyway -- no big deal.

Most of them look awesome (and very generous, thank you!) to me, but I'm still not 100% certain about the Ramon y Ramon. It's just such a rarity that it makes it difficulty to judge its value unless you've had experience with them before -- which I haven't. As smellysell put it:

smellysell said:
A well established member told me when I was thinking about buying these that he though ~$15 would be a reasonable price to pay. That being said, the toughest thing about finding a put for one of these is rarity.
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I'd love to hear input from everyone else -- perhaps someone can add a .02 that will give a proper assessment to this situation.
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Completely understandable! I realize that the RR is rare, so I guess we will see. If people way in I would appreciate some examples that compare in rarity to this cigar. I may have another cigar that compares to this cigar. I think the ESG should about cover it, but what do I know :).
 
Does anyone else have feedback on the rarity of the RR and if the ESG will be sufficent for a put? Feedback would be much appreciated :).

Jim
 
My word ain't law, but I think it looks ok. I'm sure Jeff will be along soon though...

Edited to add:
Oops. Jeff already replied. I didn't see it there before posting. I agree with Smellysell.
 
I don't think value is equal to rarity and vice versa. Value for value, rarity for rarity. However, I'm not sure it's unfair to characterize the ESG as somewhat rare. It's a limited release and not every shop gets them. I almost never see them on the shelves.
 
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