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Torch lighters and the TSA

Tall Paul

"insecure little bitch"
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I recently made a trip up north to our sister Country Canada and brought along some smokes to enjoy there. I flew out of Manchester, NH over to Cleveland, OH and then onto Toronto made my way thru customs in Toronto and off I went to 4 full day of training seminars. I packed only a carry on and my laptop bag. On my way home I arrived at the Toronto airport just as I came minus 3 great smokes they got lite on fire during the trip. I was very surprised to see that when traveling back to the USA you go thru customs in Toronto not at your destination like most other countries. As my bags traveled thru the x-ray machine I knew something was up it was taking way to long. So after an extensive search of my bags the TSA asks if I am carrying a lighter in my bag. I pull out my travel humi and show the ladies my lighter. They tell me that you are not a loud to carry a torch lighter on the plane. So she gives me a shipping form to fill out and drops it and the lighter into a large box of stuff. Now I am by far not an extensive traveler but I told the ladies that I have flown to Mexico, Dominican Republic and flew into Toronto just a few days ago not to mention my 1/2 a dozen trips for work over the past year and I had never had an issue before. She tells me that "this is why the USA has so many problems there security sucks" I Laughed and said "I flew into Toronto with it so what does that say about the arrival customs?"

So has this happened to any of you and what do you think the chances are I will see my lighter again?

Paul
 
I always put them in my checked bags and there's never been an issue.

I do the same. Just got back from our vacation and no issues on the checked bag. However, I do not bring along the butane refill can.

Me, too, except one time back in November of 2001 just right after 9/11, I had a butane lighter in my checked bag and it was confiscated. There was a slip in my luggage when I opened it up informing me that it had been confiscated. The rules might have been a little bit different back then but I've never had an issue since then.
 
I just had a friend get fined $750 for illegally adding a torch lighter to checked luggage. When I heard the story I almost spat out my coffee. It was in the luggage with cigars and he still got a huge slap down.

BS if you ask me.

Opps is the appropriate response to checked lighter!

PJ
 
I just had a friend get fined $750 for illegally adding a torch lighter to checked luggage. When I heard the story I almost spat out my coffee. It was in the luggage with cigars and he still got a huge slap down.

BS if you ask me.

Opps is the appropriate response to checked lighter!

PJ
Holy crap PJ! That's a lot of money for checking a lighter.
 
From Facebook so verifying is near impossible but a great story.


(Sgt. Mad Dog Tracy) I don’t know of anyone who won’t get a kick out of this one. These are the knuckleheads who are so smart, and so knowing in charge at the TSA near you!

As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:

When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, We flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards. Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That’s where the stupid started.

First, everyone was forced to get off the plane – even though the plane wasn’t refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.

It’s probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren’t loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.

The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it re-inspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to re-inspect our cargo – just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, re-inspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.

This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols

So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers.
The conversation went something like this:
TSA Guy: You can’t take those on the plane.
Soldier: What? I’ve had them since we left country.
TSA Guy: You’re not suppose to have them.
Soldier: Why?
TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.
Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I’m allowed to take it on.
TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.
Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?
TSA Guy: [awkward silence]
Me: Dude, just give him your F**K**G nail clippers so we can get the F**K out of here. I’ll buy you a new set.
Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]
To top it off, the TSA demanded we all be swabbed for “explosive residue” detection. Everyone failed, [go figure, we just came home from a war zone], because we tested positive for “Gun Powder Residue”. Who the F**K is hiring these people?
This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns – but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.
Can someone please tell me what the hell happened to OUR country while we were gone?
 
It's better to not take that sort of stuff on the plane. It's really not hard to pick up a book of matches or a cheap lighter when you land.
 
From Facebook so verifying is near impossible but a great story.


(Sgt. Mad Dog Tracy) I don’t know of anyone who won’t get a kick out of this one. These are the knuckleheads who are so smart, and so knowing in charge at the TSA near you!

As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:

When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, We flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards. Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That’s where the stupid started.

First, everyone was forced to get off the plane – even though the plane wasn’t refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.

It’s probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren’t loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.

The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it re-inspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to re-inspect our cargo – just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, re-inspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.

This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols

So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers.
The conversation went something like this:
TSA Guy: You can’t take those on the plane.
Soldier: What? I’ve had them since we left country.
TSA Guy: You’re not suppose to have them.
Soldier: Why?
TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.
Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I’m allowed to take it on.
TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.
Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?
TSA Guy: [awkward silence]
Me: Dude, just give him your F**K**G nail clippers so we can get the F**K out of here. I’ll buy you a new set.
Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]
To top it off, the TSA demanded we all be swabbed for “explosive residue” detection. Everyone failed, [go figure, we just came home from a war zone], because we tested positive for “Gun Powder Residue”. Who the F**K is hiring these people?
This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns – but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.
Can someone please tell me what the hell happened to OUR country while we were gone?

Well Steve it's like this, all democratic countries have been taken over by the top brass of the Jackboot Sook Brigade, and now we all have to put on extra layers of cotton wool before we go out just in case we hurt some pussy bastid.
 
Well Steve it's like this, all democratic countries have been taken over by the top brass of the Jackboot Sook Brigade, and now we all have to put on extra layers of cotton wool before we go out just in case we hurt some pussy bastid.
I wear six layers just to feel safe...
 
Here is a tip for you. JetLine makes a lighter (Double, Triple and Quad flame torch) called the "New York". It is a titanium case and retails for $20.00. Lifetime warranty. I have carried them in my toiletry bag in my carry on, on 20+ flights. Titanium goes through the xray and metal detector,

Just a tip.
 
It's better to not take that sort of stuff on the plane. It's really not hard to pick up a book of matches or a cheap lighter when you land.

Exactly...why take the chance?

I really had no idea it was a problem. I figured a lighter is a lighter but aparently not. Now i know for the next time.

What is also strange is the didn't take the cutter a device that can be taken apart and used as a weapon.
 
It's better to not take that sort of stuff on the plane. It's really not hard to pick up a book of matches or a cheap lighter when you land.

Exactly...why take the chance?

I really had no idea it was a problem. I figured a lighter is a lighter but apparently not. Now i know for the next time.

What is also strange is the didn't take the cutter a device that can be taken apart and used as a weapon.

Once I saw these, I knew carrying a lighter (while traveling by air) would be a hassle!
 
When I travel, I usually only take accessories that I wouldn't get too PO'ed about if they were confiscated, lost or stolen. Lighters and cutters can be purchased cheaply at your destination. I keep the good stuff at home. ;)
 
IT is frustrating. My friend had throwing knifes in a bag he bought during a road trip. He forgot them in the bag and they made it from Milwaukee to Las Vegas. On the way back from Las Vegas is when they actually found them...... Go figure.

You may get a torch through once in a while, but it is on the naughty list.
 
Can someone please tell me what the hell happened to OUR country while we were gone?
We lost sight of what we were trying to protect.
Agreed. And the bill has come due for our apathy and neglect. The bill collectors apparently want our nail clippers and torch lighters as collateral. :p
 
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