Getting your feet wet Pass II

[Bxcigrfan]

ohhhh man im on deck im on deck i dont know what to do with myself
im like waiting for santa to come down the chimney

 

[Jonesy]

OK boys and girls, I have a request for that last few of you. When you do your P/T's make SURE you # them!!! I went through Marco-Polo's takes and they weren't #'ed and if there were dupes, I don't know which one was taken. In Bully's case, I would just appreciate it if the p/t's are set up in numerical order....i.e.

1. padron p 134 ashton
24. vsg p 135 anejo
115. shark p 136 opus perf. 2

Its already a pain in the ass trying to keep up with everything but when things like this are done, it makes it that much harder on me. Thanks!

 

[Doc Wylie]

OK boys and girls, I have a request for that last few of you. When you do your P/T's make SURE you # them!!! I went through Marco-Polo's takes and they weren't #'ed and if there were dupes, I don't know which one was taken. In Bully's case, I would just appreciate it if the p/t's are set up in numerical order....i.e.

1. padron p 134 ashton
24. vsg p 135 anejo
115. shark p 136 opus perf. 2

Its already a pain in the ass trying to keep up with everything but when things like this are done, it makes it that much harder on me. Thanks!

OK....so you want me to assign numbers for my puts starting at 151? Am I understanding this correctly?

 

[Jonesy]

OK boys and girls, I have a request for that last few of you. When you do your P/T's make SURE you # them!!! I went through Marco-Polo's takes and they weren't #'ed and if there were dupes, I don't know which one was taken. In Bully's case, I would just appreciate it if the p/t's are set up in numerical order....i.e.

1. padron p 134 ashton
24. vsg p 135 anejo
115. shark p 136 opus perf. 2

Its already a pain in the ass trying to keep up with everything but when things like this are done, it makes it that much harder on me. Thanks!

OK....so you want me to assign numbers for my puts starting at 151? Am I understanding this correctly?

Yep, if the master list on the first post is updated as it should be (I know I've fallen behind a time or two :blush: ) then you should # your puts accordingly. I didn't mean to come off as harsh as it sounded in the previous post, but it can be quite a hassle when I have to try to figure out what # cigar has been taken or when I have to sort things out.

 

[Doc Wylie]

My proposed puts & takes. Fire away!

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)
(8) 146 Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda ($14). . . . . . . . . 158 God of Fire Carlito Robusto '06 ($18.90)
(9) 147 Graycliffe Espresso Lancero Elegante ($22). . . 159 Illusione -23 - Culebra ($21)

 

[Jonesy]

My proposed puts & takes. Fire away!

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)
(8) 146 Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda ($14). . . . . . . . . 158 God of Fire Carlito Robusto '06 ($18.90)
(9) 147 Graycliffe Espresso Lancero Elegante ($22). . . 159 Illusione -23 - Culebra ($21)

They all look good to me Doc other than the last one. It's within a dollar, but it's still under and doesn't match the rarity of the Elegante.

 

[bully1875]

Dammit. I was under the assumption 3-7 trades only. I would have cleared that box out

My proposed puts & takes. Fire away!

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)
(8) 146 Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda ($14). . . . . . . . . 158 God of Fire Carlito Robusto '06 ($18.90)
(9) 147 Graycliffe Espresso Lancero Elegante ($22). . . 159 Illusione -23 - Culebra ($21)

They all look good to me Doc other than the last one. It's within a dollar, but it's still under and doesn't match the rarity of the Elegante.

What can possibly match the rarity of the Elegante? It's never been release. Not that I have too much say to it, but I think the $22 matched for the Elegante is tough to stick to.

 

[Doc Wylie]

My proposed puts & takes. Fire away!

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)
(8) 146 Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda ($14). . . . . . . . . 158 God of Fire Carlito Robusto '06 ($18.90)
(9) 147 Graycliffe Espresso Lancero Elegante ($22). . . 159 Illusione -23 - Culebra ($21)

They all look good to me Doc other than the last one. It's within a dollar, but it's still under and doesn't match the rarity of the Elegante.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll go back to the drawing board with these. My thinking on the last one was this: While not produced in as low a quantity as the Graycliffe, the Culebra is next to impossible to find either online or at a B&M, and the dollar value for the Graycliffe is not an MSRP. Rather, it is the value assigned by Bully. Therefore I felt the one dollar difference was irrelevant. However, I will pull this propose P/T pending your consideration of my rationale and will re-evaluate some of my others accordingly.

By my count, Bully did a 9 for 9 trade (#'s 142 through 150). I interpreted the 3-7 as a guideline. Should I drop my trades to a maximum of 7?

 

[bully1875]

My proposed puts & takes. Fire away!

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)
(8) 146 Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda ($14). . . . . . . . . 158 God of Fire Carlito Robusto '06 ($18.90)
(9) 147 Graycliffe Espresso Lancero Elegante ($22). . . 159 Illusione -23 - Culebra ($21)

They all look good to me Doc other than the last one. It's within a dollar, but it's still under and doesn't match the rarity of the Elegante.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll go back to the drawing board with these. My thinking on the last one was this: While not produced in as low a quantity as the Graycliffe, the Culebra is next to impossible to find either online or at a B&M, and the dollar value for the Graycliffe is not an MSRP. Rather, it is the value assigned by Bully. Therefore I felt the one dollar difference was irrelevant. However, I will pull this propose P/T pending your consideration of my rationale and will re-evaluate some of my others accordingly.

By my count, Bully did a 9 for 9 trade (#'s 142 through 150). I interpreted the 3-7 as a guideline. Should I drop my trades to a maximum of 7?

Im sorry for throwing a wrench into this (not my intentions). I just wanted to get the 2 sticks that were out of rotation back into rotation.

 

[Jonesy]

My proposed puts & takes. Fire away!

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)
(8) 146 Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda ($14). . . . . . . . . 158 God of Fire Carlito Robusto '06 ($18.90)
(9) 147 Graycliffe Espresso Lancero Elegante ($22). . . 159 Illusione -23 - Culebra ($21)

They all look good to me Doc other than the last one. It's within a dollar, but it's still under and doesn't match the rarity of the Elegante.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll go back to the drawing board with these. My thinking on the last one was this: While not produced in as low a quantity as the Graycliffe, the Culebra is next to impossible to find either online or at a B&M, and the dollar value for the Graycliffe is not an MSRP. Rather, it is the value assigned by Bully. Therefore I felt the one dollar difference was irrelevant. However, I will pull this propose P/T pending your consideration of my rationale and will re-evaluate some of my others accordingly.

By my count, Bully did a 9 for 9 trade (#'s 142 through 150). I interpreted the 3-7 as a guideline. Should I drop my trades to a maximum of 7?

No, your fine with the trades, I let him do 9 because he did 7 and then amended to take the two damaged sticks. As far as the Elegante goes, I don't know what MSRP is, but I do know it's like the Salomone which was produced in very limited quantity...I may have to research this a little more before I make a final decision on that trade.

 

[bully1875]

My proposed puts & takes. Fire away!

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)
(8) 146 Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda ($14). . . . . . . . . 158 God of Fire Carlito Robusto '06 ($18.90)
(9) 147 Graycliffe Espresso Lancero Elegante ($22). . . 159 Illusione -23 - Culebra ($21)

They all look good to me Doc other than the last one. It's within a dollar, but it's still under and doesn't match the rarity of the Elegante.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll go back to the drawing board with these. My thinking on the last one was this: While not produced in as low a quantity as the Graycliffe, the Culebra is next to impossible to find either online or at a B&M, and the dollar value for the Graycliffe is not an MSRP. Rather, it is the value assigned by Bully. Therefore I felt the one dollar difference was irrelevant. However, I will pull this propose P/T pending your consideration of my rationale and will re-evaluate some of my others accordingly.

By my count, Bully did a 9 for 9 trade (#'s 142 through 150). I interpreted the 3-7 as a guideline. Should I drop my trades to a maximum of 7?

No, your fine with the trades, I let him do 9 because he did 7 and then amended to take the two damaged sticks. As far as the Elegante goes, I don't know what MSRP is, but I do know it's like the Salomone which was produced in very limited quantity...I may have to research this a little more before I make a final decision on that trade.

I probably should not have put that stick in, Im sorry.

 

[Jonesy]

I probably should not have put that stick in, Im sorry.

There's nothing at all wrong with putting that stick in the pass. I just researched the Elegante on Vitolas and quite a few other sites trying to get a gauge on pricing. Box pricing went from ~$250 to $350 and it's hard to factor one in when it's given the "around" sign. What I'll let this cigar go for is a cigar valued in the ~$15 range. I think that's acceptable due to the pricing I've seen and the rarity of the cigar.

 

[Doc Wylie]

My proposed puts & takes. Fire away!

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)
(8) 146 Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda ($14). . . . . . . . . 158 God of Fire Carlito Robusto '06 ($18.90)
(9) 147 Graycliffe Espresso Lancero Elegante ($22). . . 159 Illusione -23 - Culebra ($21)

They all look good to me Doc other than the last one. It's within a dollar, but it's still under and doesn't match the rarity of the Elegante.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll go back to the drawing board with these. My thinking on the last one was this: While not produced in as low a quantity as the Graycliffe, the Culebra is next to impossible to find either online or at a B&M, and the dollar value for the Graycliffe is not an MSRP. Rather, it is the value assigned by Bully. Therefore I felt the one dollar difference was irrelevant. However, I will pull this propose P/T pending your consideration of my rationale and will re-evaluate some of my others accordingly.

By my count, Bully did a 9 for 9 trade (#'s 142 through 150). I interpreted the 3-7 as a guideline. Should I drop my trades to a maximum of 7?

No, your fine with the trades, I let him do 9 because he did 7 and then amended to take the two damaged sticks. As far as the Elegante goes, I don't know what MSRP is, but I do know it's like the Salomone which was produced in very limited quantity...I may have to research this a little more before I make a final decision on that trade.

I appreciate the consideration but on second thought, I will drop down to 7 P/T's as follows:

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)

 

[Jonesy]

My proposed puts & takes. Fire away!

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)
(8) 146 Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda ($14). . . . . . . . . 158 God of Fire Carlito Robusto '06 ($18.90)
(9) 147 Graycliffe Espresso Lancero Elegante ($22). . . 159 Illusione -23 - Culebra ($21)

They all look good to me Doc other than the last one. It's within a dollar, but it's still under and doesn't match the rarity of the Elegante.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll go back to the drawing board with these. My thinking on the last one was this: While not produced in as low a quantity as the Graycliffe, the Culebra is next to impossible to find either online or at a B&M, and the dollar value for the Graycliffe is not an MSRP. Rather, it is the value assigned by Bully. Therefore I felt the one dollar difference was irrelevant. However, I will pull this propose P/T pending your consideration of my rationale and will re-evaluate some of my others accordingly.

By my count, Bully did a 9 for 9 trade (#'s 142 through 150). I interpreted the 3-7 as a guideline. Should I drop my trades to a maximum of 7?

No, your fine with the trades, I let him do 9 because he did 7 and then amended to take the two damaged sticks. As far as the Elegante goes, I don't know what MSRP is, but I do know it's like the Salomone which was produced in very limited quantity...I may have to research this a little more before I make a final decision on that trade.

I appreciate the consideration but on second thought, I will drop down to 7 P/T's as follows:

Take:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Put:

(1) 77 La Aurora 100 Anos Belicoso ($16). . . . . . . . . 151 Illusione -1- Dark Prince ($16)
(2) 109 El Centurion Emperadores ($12). . . . . . . . . . 152 Ashton VSG Wizard ($12)
(3) 113 La Aurora Preferidos #2 ($12). . . . . . . . . . . . 153 Ashton VSG Spellbound ($12)
(4) 114 Hemingway Classic Maduro ($7.50) . . . . . . . . 154 Liga Privada #9 Belicoso ($9.90)
(5) 126 Graycliffe Professionale Pirate ($13.64). . . . . . 155 Winston Churchill #10 ($14.25)
(6) 133 Cabaiguan Guapo 46 Maduro ($8.90) . . . . . . . 156 Cruzado Marelas ($8.90)
(7) 142 Cabaiguan Guapo ($8.20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 Anejo Reserva #48 Maduro ($8.75)

These all look good to me Doc! You're good to go once it gets to you.

 

[Doc Wylie]

These all look good to me Doc! You're good to go once it gets to you.

Very good. Thank you, Jonesy. I will turn the pass around as quickly as I can once it arrives.

I appreciate the opportunity to participate in this pass and have learned a great deal throughout.

 

[ironpeddler]

I say allow the Illusione culebra...I can't find that fricken thing anywhere!

Very nice P&Ts Doc...that was smooth as silk!

 

[Doc Wylie]

I say allow the Illusione culebra...I can't find that fricken thing anywhere!

C'est la vie! :whistling:

 

[MoeCizlak]

Well done Doc. How about sending this thing back in reverse? There are some more really nice sticks in here. Well done all around guys and girl.

 

[Doc Wylie]

The Eagle has landed! :thumbs:

Box will be inventoried, P's and T's taken care of, repacked and sent on. Hopefully on monday if I can get through the crowds on the BUSIEST POST OFFICE DAY OF THE YEAR! :laugh:

 

[ironpeddler]

I say allow the Illusione culebra...I can't find that fricken thing anywhere!

C'est la vie! :whistling:

"C'est la vie!" my ass....throw it in the box and no one touch it until it gets to me! :laugh:

But then again, I've never been a fan of Graycliff cigars...even the ones I've smoked in their restaurant in the Bahamas.