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never warmed to these. they have some strength but are far from the strongest smoke out there. try a joya de nicaragua antano if u want a real kick in the pants... lol although these have some strength i think these dont have much flavor. got a couple buddies that love these, though. lol

you know, a lotta guys i know raved about these. the first 5 i smoked left me wondering what all the fuss was about. lol they are pretty good smokes but not anything i would keep around. unless they went on super blowout. lol

i like villazon smokes in general but the dark sumatras never did it for me. id rather have a regular hoyo in double maddie.

imho the old version with the plain band were much better. its the old 'change blends when you change bands' trick... lol

i like the tri-press ones best. corojo, maduro and cameroon in order. made by torano, i believe. i think they are good specimens of the particular wrapper types.

had a bundle of corona size, dont remember what number they were. dont thing they were the 85, which is a cuban corona iirc. havent had one in a while but last one i did was a good maduro wrapped dominican, not dissimilar to other maduro wrapped dominicans.

i like em but they are not for mild cigar smokers. lol have also found them to be a little inconsistent. ymmv

had a couple of these alt el. they run about $25 or so for a bundle of 20 and are a great value. i reserve the right to hold a final opinion til about april when they have had some time to set up. most bundles ive had need 4-6 mos to develop.

i like the gpecc el. i have the hermoso size. liked the old gpecc with the thin, plain band. i think they changed when they added the fake cuban seal and were not as good. they run about $2/per and are good for that price. pretty full bodied with some earthy-type flavors

gibu: machito

in the 'flor de oliva' lines the regular is my least favorite. i like the boxed cammies and maddies, the bundled maddies and the corojo and gold bundles very much.

these benefit greatly from a nap. i put mine in the bottom of my cooler where they are a pain in the neck to get at. they nap longer that way. lol

i like the londres. the one delicia i have had was tasty also

dont care for these

never had a bahia product that has gotten my attention. <shrugs nonchalantly> consuegras are good if you like villazon smokes (punch, hdm, erdm and a number of other honduran brands) they can be a bit of a crapshoot, though.

good smoke but they are a real kick in the pants. the kind of cigar guys who smoke several a day might learn to respect...

hard to go too wrong with any oliva product. ymmv

what monty said...

the natural wrapper in these are pretty strong. the maduros are less so but still strong. i like the natties.

i like the little figurado better than the churchills but both are a good smoke...